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Low-end Mac notebook for me? Best match of price, utility, and reliability
Clamshell iBook
20%
 20%  [ 1 ]
Rage graphics iceBook
0%
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Radeon graphics iceBook
0%
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G4 iBook
60%
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Early MacBook
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Current MacBook
20%
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Post 25 Jan 2010 10:25 pm   

Okay... does it make sense to get an early G3 icebook at this point? I owned a 600MHz model several years ago and absolutely loved it. It would still be very useful, even with Tiger and PPC on their way out, as 99% of what I do is writing in Word and I'm learning programming in C and Objective-C.

But G3 iBooks can be had usually for around $100 for the early dual-USB models and I would NOT be interested in one of the later Radeon graphics models... I'm waaay too concerned with the video board failing in something I bought used!

So, what should I save for? A G3 iBook, one of the later G4 models, or just wait and get a MacBook?

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Post 25 Jan 2010 10:44 pm   

If you got a G3, I'd recommend getting programs which are OS 9 native, since the G3 will perform faster in OS 9 than OS X.

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Post 25 Jan 2010 11:54 pm   

I've got plenty of OS 9 apps, and I do so love 9.2.2. It's my favorite OS ever I think. It's just that half of what I'd be doing is working in Xcode on Tiger. I'll be using one of my other Macs for compiling, but I'd like to have something on-the-go that can run the IDE.

I guess my other option would be to buy Snow Leopard and hack a cheap netbook Smile

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Post 26 Jan 2010 12:30 am   

A G4 probably wouldn't do too badly with OS X.

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Post 26 Jan 2010 8:06 am   

Yeesh! I should hope so! My old G4 450 runs El Tigre like a champ!

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Post 26 Jan 2010 3:20 pm   

As always, it depends what you want to do with it.
Some software is MS OS or Linux only - for instrument control for example. I can see the attraction of having a notebook running a different OS to my desktop so I could run stuff that's incompatible with Mac OS.

Incidentally, why run Microsuck Word when OpenOffice, NeoOffice are FREE and totally compatible. I hope you don't run the related IE Bugware browser.

On the other hand if it's your main workstation, then a Mac OS machine seems the way to go, but I'd probably advise you to go with OSX.

Mac OS 9 was great, possibly the best ever Mac OS so far, but I was finding that compatibility with the internet was fading by the time I upgraded to OS X. Most browsers stopped being upgraded a while back. Same with plugins like Flash Player. Many Flash presentations simply didn't run on the versions available for OS9 so you start to feel disenfranchised.

So if connectivity on the go is an issue, a Mac OS9 machine will be stuck in a time-warp with obsolete software. Some sites may stop wanting you to connect with them as certificates etc. will be out of date. Pretty well everyone will have to convert from IVP4 to IVP6 very soon, as the IP numbers are running out. Not sure how well OS9 software will cope with that.

With a little dedication, you can restore many features to OSX so it looks and behaves more like OS9. So not all bad.

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Post 26 Jan 2010 8:48 pm   

Defiantly just save for a G4 at this point. G3 + websites that have flash = fail.

But as Cactus stated above OS 9 is way outdated, even with the newer web browser called Classilla.

I loved OS 9 very much but saw the writing on the wall a few years ago.

I had a G3 iBook and it was great even in OS X, you just had to make sure the websites didn't have alot of code in them, which is hard to find these days.

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Post 27 Jan 2010 9:27 pm   

It's so sad that something as marginally useful as the Internet has marginalized perfectly useful hardware. Until the good-old bad-old Web 2.0 came along and we all were supposed to use Google crap, Flash, and all that mess, a computer was useful until it stopped working.

All hail the interwebs! Hypertext that ruins your computer.

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Post 27 Jan 2010 10:24 pm   

There's more to computers than just the Internet! I don't even have a home Internet connection!

And look what I've managed to do.

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Post 31 Jan 2010 7:27 am   

Oh I know... I use my old G4 as my iTunes jukebox. All of my music is on it. I run OS X 10.2.8 and iTunes 4. Truth is? It makes a really great writing machine with Word v.X. Even nicer than Word '08 on my "Mac Pro".

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Post 31 Jan 2010 2:44 pm   

Well the best version of Word was 5.1. Small, efficient and unbloated by thousands of 'features' that most people don't use. Word 5.1 would run nicely in OS 9.

However, connecting to the internet from your main computer is incredibly useful. You can check facts, URLs, even spelling, almost instantly as part of another job. You don't need the internet, any more than you need a computer. Much of what a computer does could be done with pencil and paper, a slide rule and graph paper, a harmonica or wind-up gramophone and a shelf of books.

I didn't have access to either computers or the internet for at least half of my working life. Calculators were rare, expensive (thousands of pounds) and suitcase-sized until pocket-sized models appeared towards the end of my postgraduate studies.

The point is that one doesn't need most of the electronic gizmos we take for granted. It's just that life is more pleasant, easier, more productive - well different anyway - if we have them. Same with the internet.

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Post 05 Feb 2010 4:52 pm   

Word 5.1 = <3

It just didn't want to run for me on my box. Runs in 8.5 on my old iMac and on my old Powerbook, but didn't want to start on my G4. I don't know why :(

But I'm still thinking, wondering. I just want a really great portable writing machine. If I could snag an old Lombard, I'd be happy happy. The hard disks in those don't require you disassemble the whole unit. Apple reaaally screwed the iBook over with that design decision.

Oh, that and putting those crap Radeon cards in the later G3 models.

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Post 05 Feb 2010 5:33 pm   

I think it's funny that people buy laptops and then expect high performance from them, as if they were only a miniature desktop machine.

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Post 06 Feb 2010 2:08 pm   

Well, they are miniature desktop machines so one expects a miniature performance. Laughing

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Post 07 Feb 2010 7:14 am   

Psshhhh

I do NOT expect desktop performance! My current portables are an Atom 230 netbook Hackintosh and a Powerbook 3400/180!!

The little Atom netbook is great with 10.5.8 and I still run 8.6 on the Powerbook 3400.

I don't expect an awful lot. I just really would like a real Apple 'Book for not a lot of doh.

 
    
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